[00:00:00] Welcome back to the Football Coaching Podcast. I am Daniel Chamberlain. We are laughing at our, Hit record ... I hit the button and it took a second, and we're debating drinks here. So, well, if y'all don't know, we are grown men and we consume beverages. And sometimes we do that while we're talking to a microphone, so.
[00:00:17] Hi, Joe. What's up, coach? We were just discussing the differences in the Natural Light life and the 14-year Glenlivet life. So you guys can post in the comments or your social media. Are you a Natty Light guy or a 14-year Glenlivet guy? We'll, we'll... I'd love to see the responses on that. There's no in between.
[00:00:36] There isn't. Yeah. There's no in between. No, there's not. Power minute. Tonight we're talking defensive line drills. This should be a super good one. We're gonna talk about building drills on key reads, focusing on drills that transfer to the field, where the, like, you can almost just copy-paste this for every position, which is great.
[00:00:53] And then progress to stop any offensive attack. So progressing through... A- as you've seen the, the way this season's [00:01:00] going, that's kind of the blueprint, is take things from their fundamental base levels and build them up until it's working on game night, so. Last week we talked about group run drill periods how to get the most out of your group run times, and then next week it's on to defending the spread option.
[00:01:16] And I put an S. Apparently, the spread option has options. Coach scrimmage week is here. Most of you are either just got out of your first one, or by the time this comes out, you're two, maybe one day away. After months of preparation, you're finally about to see your team against somebody else. I know that there's some places, Joe, that do the like, you can combine practices.
[00:01:38] Oklahoma has really weird rules. In the spring you can do some stuff like that, but not... Yeah, you gotta wait till scrimmage time in the fall. Anyway, we're glad you're spending a little time with us before you get back to work, or as you're kind of trying to rejuvenate yourself between this busy week and getting into a game type scenario, so glad you guys are with us.
[00:01:55] We'll pay the bills, Joe, and then we'll move [00:02:00] on.
[00:02:00] Yeah, we will. Where were we? The one thing that I wanna point out, JDFP Premium Coaching Systems, all the things we're gonna be talking about here and really in, in most of the segments that we go through, JDFP Premium Coaching Systems includes the 4-2-5 defense system, 33 stack defense system 4-3 defense system, 3-4 defense system, and the pistol power offense.
[00:02:20] You get access to all of those with JDFB Gold, but you also get the defensive drill system. So when we talk about these drills a- and you're hearing them and we're talking about the, the defensive line key read drills we have put together the defensive line system, the defensive line, the defensive drill system I should say where you will see the, you'll get the drill sheets, the, that you can print out and hand.
[00:02:46] I always recommend to our coaches that are working with at the youth level with dads who kinda show up, and you don't know who's gonna show up, take all those, laminate them or put them in, in protector sheets, put them in a binder, and when whichever dad shows up, you hand them [00:03:00] whichever drill they're gonna run and say, "Here it is."
[00:03:02] And then you can pull your phone out real quick and say, "And here's what it looks like," because we have the drill being installed. When we went up, Coach Mike Carter, who's been on the podcast, I went up and I did an install of the 4-2-5 defense system for him up in Bloomfield, New Jersey. We filmed the install.
[00:03:18] Now the audio is not perfect, but we did a lot of editing because it was very windy that day and got pretty good audio. But you will see me installing it with kids who have not run these drills before, with no pads by the way. All of our drills can be run essentially with no pads. It'll include tackling drills, block destruct drills, and position drills for each group are in the defensive drill system.
[00:03:35] Again, that's all part of JDFP Premium Sy- Coaching Systems Gold and Platinum. And as we get into the scrimmages, Daniel, we also wanna mention with JDFP Platinum, you will get game film analysis where you will send your game film in. You can send your game film in every week, along with adding the rest of your coaching staff, and you will get one of our expert coaches, myself, Daniel Bill Weiss, Con Chase have all been on the [00:04:00] podcast.
[00:04:00] We'll watch your film, send you back notes and telustrated video on how to make it better. That's at the Platinum level. But you want that defensive drill system, it's inside JDFP Premium Coaching Systems Gold. Just go to JoeDanielfootball.com and click on the Join button or go to JoeDanielfootball.com/membership.
[00:04:19] Awesome. I wanna talk to you just a moment about Athletic Speed and Movement, and it's a little bit different. I know last year we had the script, and I-- the script was funny, and I, I love it. I can't even remember what the closing line was now, but it was a good one. But what I wanna talk about right now is s- most of you know, unless it's your very first episode, I have been working with a first grade football team for this, this fall.
[00:04:37] Obviously getting canned as the head coach for the varsity side. It's hard to find a varsity job, weirdly enough. And so I'm helping with first graders, which is fun because it's rejuvenated all those things that I had started taking for granted at the varsity level. Anyway but the thing I see right now, guys, and this is the Athletic Speed and Movement piece, is the kid...
[00:04:54] We have all the same runners right now that I see on varsity teams and I see in junior high teams, and [00:05:00] it's the kid that his arms are too far out wide, and they're wobbling, and there's... That kid s- doing it right now at six years old, and he'll still be doing it when he gets to his varsity team. The kid who has terrible form and his arms run really long, and he's like...
[00:05:15] Dude, it-- They don't change, and what I'm saying is that there's not a time that's too early or too late to start making that change for them. So if you're a varsity guy, get Athletic Speed and Movement, and get the youth guys some pieces of it. This is what we need to start practicing and get these guys in, or your junior high level, or your middle school level.
[00:05:36] There's not a, there's not a time that's too early to get started. So jump over to Athletic Speed and Movement. We have an in-season program that will help you not eat up all your practice time. You're gonna practice that top speed, which we've told you time and time again, you need to practice. Takes three days to stop lo- to start losing your top speed.
[00:05:51] Three days. Strength is something like 14 days, so I know you're wanting to lift all in season, and we do, too. But the running has got to happen or you do start [00:06:00] decreasing. Athleticspeedmovement.com. Get in now. Help those kids from being... Getting to you and not knowing how to run. Get this stuff started at your junior high or middle school levels, as far back as you can go and control the curriculum.
[00:06:11] Athleticspeedmovement.com Yeah, and it's as, as we've ... I've talked to Dale many times about this, like is, is obviously the optimal program is the 12-week out of season program. But getting, you know, 80% of the result right now with a shorter piece of your practice time, it's not gonna impact, it's not like they're learning to run.
[00:06:33] It's not like if you change your golf swing, right, you go through a little deal where you gotta figure it out. No. It's not gonna impact their football playing as far as they don't get worse, they're just gonna get better and better and better, and it's like why not do this right now? Why not do this i- if you haven't started yet, but like now is, now is as good a time as any.
[00:06:55] That's right. Because there's no other way to be faster in the playoffs [00:07:00] than this. Sure. There's certainly no better way. So yeah, Athleticspeedmovement.com. Love it.
[00:07:05] Building Defensive Line Drills on Key Reads
[00:07:06] Let's jump in here. So we are talking defensive line drills tonight, and we get a lot of these questions. Joe, I know you do. I know I do. You know, how would you drill this?
[00:07:12] How would you ... We, and one of the questions tonight at my youth practice was, "Hey, Coach, what, what's your conditioning drills?" Right? Everybody wants the Rolodex- Drills ... of drills that they can just pop it out, it shows you where the orange cones are and what to do. And, and that's really hard to do, 'cause we never know in, in general, just I'm talking the internet, the Twitterverse Facebook, I don't know what your system is.
[00:07:36] I don't know what the fundamentals, the core pillars of your system are. Look, if you're a JDFB member, you get the, the defensive guide drill or all, you know, the, the drill guide, because we know what your key reads are. We know what your stance is. We know that you're an umbrella team, right? You're gonna
[00:07:52] We know all that, so it's pretty easy for a guy that's a JDFB premium coaching member. It's a little harder just out in the wild. I can tell [00:08:00] you how I do it. I can tell you why I do it. I can tell you what skill I'm getting better at. Becomes a little difficult just to hand you a drill book and say, "This is the ultimate, the ultimate book."
[00:08:09] So, so talk to me, Joe, what ... Some guys are from across the world listening right now. What are a way that they can start building out that defensive line drill manual or just getting started with a few? Have you ... Even if you had a everyday drills or whatever it is they're trying to build. First thing that I would do as a defensive line coach Is I would look at what your high school coaches did.
[00:08:34] In all likelihood, and I don't know your high school coaches, but what a lot of people remember doing, what I remember doing, and I loved my defensive line coach, but, you know, we did the ...
[00:08:46] Why Rope Chute and Sled Drills Waste Practice Time
[00:08:46] This seems to be universal with defensive line, because I did this universal, like, three or four everyday drills with my defensive line coach in high school.
[00:08:57] And then I went to college, and I had a c- [00:09:00] coach who was just out of college himself who was the defensive line coach. And I remember running around going, "Rope, chute, sled." Like, that's what we did every single day. We ran through the ropes. Why the frick are we running through ropes on the defensive line, guys?
[00:09:12] And then we went through the chutes, and that's typical defensive line stuff, and then we hit the sled, and we'd do the lab sled or hit, pop the sled or whatever. Did that every single day, and then we'd go and do some sort of actual probably defensive line drill. But it was, it was just, it was just not productive.
[00:09:38] That stuff, guys, ropes and chutes and sled ... I mean, I can, I can tell you why every one of those is a bad idea. And I'm not ... I don't necessarily wanna start with, with bashing the ropes and the chutes and the hoops and the sleds, and the arm things with the, the, the, the, you know, the, the, the thing where- Yeah, yeah, the guy that [00:10:00] had too many arms, right?
[00:10:01] And we're hitting the Weeble wobble and weaving through the Weeble wobble. It- It's like a Goro. It's ... The, none of that stuff is ... Most of that stuff isn't bad, and I'll argue some of it is. Ropes is a waste of time for a defensive lineman. It's just a waste of time. Bag drills, jumping over the bags, that's
[00:10:23] is a waste of time for pretty much every- 'Cause those are agilities. You can use it as a warmup if you want to. But if your t- if you have a team warmup, why? Those are agilities. Ladders, those are agilities, okay? That's ... Cut all that crap. Get athletic speed and movement, and you don't need any of that.
[00:10:45] You're just gonna teach them how to run on actual grass. Just run on the grass. That's what, that's what's gonna be there in the game. No ropes, okay? N- no bags. There aren't that many bodies on the ground. Show [00:11:00] me, show me the film of, of your guys stepping over bodies on the ground 27 times a game. It doesn't happen on the field.
[00:11:12] So number one, stop that crap. Stop that crap. Number two, the sled. Defensive linemen- You think the offensive lineman are just gonna stand there in front of you? Stop that crap. You can teach ... You're, you're teaching hips and teaching them to shoot the hips and teaching them to shoot the hands and all that sort of stuff.
[00:11:34] That's fine. I mean, but it's not realistic. You don't ever get to do that. You never really get to do that. And then you have the lockout and all that stuff. That's fine if your guy's going to play for LSU. He's gonna get paid to do it, and he's got a 400-pound bench, and he can lock that guy out with his 400-pound bench and his [00:12:00] 350-pound power clean and all this sort of stuff.
[00:12:02] Like, and his 600-pound squat. That's great. What is your guy gonna do? What is your chubby, roly-poly, 190 pound gonna do? Not that. And you're gonna get frustrated when it doesn't work, and you're gonna be like, "We gotta lock the hands out." Good luck. Good luck. Especially when he gets a guy across from him who's actually gonna go play at a Power Five, Power Four.
[00:12:27] Are we get- do- is it Power Five again yet? Are they ... I think they're back. They're back, but I don't know if they're power. The Pac-12. Pac- it- it's ... They're all, they're all states, aren't they? Are they, are they states? All but one. Yeah. Anyway. I can't remember who it was. Yeah. But yes, all but one is a state school.
[00:12:41] We're g- we're just gonna- Hey, I'm here for it, man ... I'm going Power Four, okay? Pac-12 after nine. I- I mean, look- Lampson heart ... if they're going to play group of five, they're gonna tear your kid apart if you try to go pa, you know? Like, you just shoot the hands and s- okay. That has a little more application, but again It's not [00:13:00] what matters.
[00:13:02] So sorry everybody who has your defensive line circus and you love it. Don't feel bad. Come back in four weeks when we get into the offensive line drills and really- I wanna- ... get into the nitty-gritty ... like real quick, and I hate to cut you off ever because it's your show and you do so good. But a lot of those things we've learned from these old- You can cut me all you want.
[00:13:22] I'm coming right back. I'm coming right back. Yeah. Give it back to me, Jackie Moon. These old school methods came from a re- like, they had a, they had a reason. They had a, a, a, a point. Yeah. And some of it was agilities, 'cause you didn't have a team warmup, right? It's like- Sure ... no, go to freaking practice.
[00:13:39] You didn't have off-season. You didn't have- And you gotta, you gotta get those knees high, and we were really worried about the height of knees in, in, in, when I was in school. Sure. Like very, very important that your knees could raise really high. We had to play football- That you could kick your butt ... or else played Little Drummer Boy, yeah.
[00:13:52] Yeah. So I mean, I understand. Guys, and here's the deal.
[00:13:55] Old School Defensive Line Drills Are Outdated
[00:13:55] The first thing you gotta do is just don't be offended that we're saying the thing you're doing is wrong. It's just outdated. The game has evolved, right? It's, and kids are more athletic and faster, stronger, better athletes than ever before in the history of football.
[00:14:11] Now, you could say that the steroid era may have leaked down into some high school football, and there were some dudes in college football, and, like, that Miami 4-3 defense everybody wants to run. I'm not sure all those guys were ... I mean, they were pretty elite. But I don't know if they weren't having a little bit of help too.
[00:14:27] Yeah. My point is- Maybe are they? Who freakin' knows? All of that stuff came from somewhere, and someone solved the problem they had with a thing, and then they made it ... Think about this. Two years ago or last or whatever, that new tackling dummy that's just a, a triangle that's not ... You know it? It's like a jack, right?
[00:14:45] The, the jacks and- Oh, I saw that, yeah ... that stupid game. Okay, like, it's an amazing invention, but it exists already in so many form. But anyway, someone solved a problem with that, and in five years, 10 years, someone's gonna go, "That's the dumbest crap ever. When does a [00:15:00] offensive guy have two legs sticking out here like that?
[00:15:02] Like wha-?" You know what I mean? So don't be upset. These things had a place. You're using them bec- but think about- Good point ... I just, I just, I implore you to think about what problem you're solving with that deal. Yeah. It's like watching Remember the Titans and their belly rolling under the guy that's pushing up over them.
[00:15:19] Like, does that have a point inside your defense? If not, please don't just copy it because someone has been doing it for 20 years. Yeah, the monkey rolls and all that kind of stuff, don't, don't do that. You know,
[00:15:30] Why Chutes Don't Fix Playing Too High
[00:15:30] the one that people would argue obviously is a problem solver is the chutes. And if my guy is playing too high, I need to put him in the chutes to get him play lower.
[00:15:46] To play lower. I left a word out And I believe Justin Dottavio had a rant on this on the podcast years ago but I agree w- wholeheartedly. And I, I was a big chute [00:16:00] guy for a long time on the defensive line. But we're ... Your athletic guys are never going to hit the chute, you know, because they're ath- they're athletes.
[00:16:12] Yep. But the problem is when you got your big guy, 'cause our chutes are basically set, and I know we have adjustable chutes, but let's face it, you're not adjusting the chute for everybody there. Nope. And your big guys are gonna crawl through in this lurch thing 'cause they don't wanna bang their head on the chute.
[00:16:31] And so the guys who actually need the chute, in theory, to play lower, are coming through in the most awkward manner possible to avoid hitting their head. And when you watch them go through, and I did it so many times that I can see it a million ... I can, I can think of, like, just multiple guys doing it.
[00:16:55] They're coming through you know, ducking their head down, and that's not [00:17:00] teaching anything. So again, the guys who would never hit their head on the chute would be doing the same thing if there was no chute there, and the guys who would hit their head on the chute are going through in this awkward non-football position, this position that you would never ever, ever want them to play football in.
[00:17:15] And what I argue is there are better ways to solve these problems. So you can try that as a method to solve the problem. My question to you is does it, has it ... And, and you may think it has. I don't know. Maybe it has for you. Maybe it has for some guys. But does it solve the problem? If you have been do-
[00:17:40] This is where I was at, coaches. I'd been running through the chute for years, and I started out as a defensive line coach. That was my first varsity job was defensive line coach. And we ran through the chutes, and I'm just gonna tell you it never fixed anybody. And that was when it was like light bulb goes on, [00:18:00] this is not the solution.
[00:18:02] What we evolved to is building our defensive linemen with the ASCA principle. And I don't know if you've heard us talk about this if you listen to the football coaching podcast, but you may notice that everything, everything comes back to Coach Simple philosophy, umbrella run fits, ASCA, levers, all ... We, we have containers.
[00:18:26] There's principles that everything is built on, and they flow throughout the entire organism of the defense and the offense and the, and the, and the program and everything
[00:18:39] ASCA Principle for Defensive Line Development
[00:18:39] What we found within the ASCA, and again, I stole it from TCU, I didn't come up with it. Get the alignment right first, okay? Simple.
[00:18:49] Where to stand. Stand here. Okay, we can get this right. Get the stance right. You cannot play with a low pad level. You cannot [00:19:00] come off the ball and do all the things that we need you to do with a bad stance. We actually had a question last night on the Chalk Talk Q&A call for our JDFP Premium Coaching Systems members, gold and platinum included, and it was about, you know, our, our w- coaching younger guys and their three-point stances are terrible.
[00:19:21] Should we just get into a two-point stance? It was like, well, if you cannot teach them to get into a good three-point stance, they're probably going to get into a terrible two-point stance. And I understand the philosophy and the thought process, and I've tried it, but it's always been better in a three. For me, with this is a, this is a team that's gonna be running the ball a lot.
[00:19:40] Like, I get it if you're air raid, better, better set for pass set and all this stuff. You're not talking about being in it just because your guys can't get into a three-point stance. Right. And it was a great question because that's a, that's a lever. Let's just put them in two-point. I can tell you from experience, that's a lever that hasn't worked for me.
[00:19:56] Could it work for you? I don't know. I doubt it, but maybe. You [00:20:00] know, I'm not... I- it wouldn't be where I'd start. So on the defensive line, if we want to come off the ball and strike with low pad level and get underneath the offensive lineman, then we need to do that from from that, you know, good flat back stance.
[00:20:16] I will also say, and I can't believe I'm saying this, I can't believe I'm saying it because I've said it before, but I believe more so on the offensive line than the defensive line, but there's a different reason for the defensive line. That leverage component is not as important as it's made out to be.
[00:20:36] Low man wins. I think the offensive lineman should be playing higher than the defensive lineman D- in general. Not always, but in general the offensive line can get what they need done from a higher body position. They just have to be in the way and control where you go, and then the li- the running backs can figure it out.
[00:20:57] From the defensive line standpoint, though, what's [00:21:00] way more important than pad level is reaction to the offensive lineman. Because a high percentage of what the offensive line does is not block on ... Ah, let's go to another one. Block on boards. I'm gonna upset a whole lot of offensive lineman coaches with that.
[00:21:17] It's not block on boards. We're not just lining up across from each other. And Daniel, you know because you're d- you're dealing with this stuff now. These youth programs that have these ridiculous rules where we, everybody's gotta line up with the, you know, you gotta line up over top of the guards, and you gotta line up over top of the
[00:21:33] Nobody can line up in a shade or anything like that, or in a gap. Because it's easier ... I'm gonna slant. Nobody's gonna do block on ... We're not just gonna play block on boards. We're not doing that. I'm not gonna two-gap all of my eight-year-old guards, or, or eight, eight-year-old whatever, defensive tackles. Not doing that.
[00:21:53] You can do that and play block on boards all day. It's a st- it's a stupid drill. It's a stupid drill [00:22:00] 'cause it never happens, guys. It never happens. It's not real. Board wars, it's not real. Doesn't translate. And then you go, "Why doesn't this translate?" Because nobody ever does this, and they also go bam, head to head every single time.
[00:22:13] So, sorry. I'm hurting a lot of feelings. It's gonna get worse before it gets better. What we found is you get the alignment right, you get the stance right, and then you focus all of the drill work on the key reads.
[00:22:29] Five Key Reads for Defensive Linemen
[00:22:29] We teach five key reads. There are, there are five key reads that we teach. But it all comes down to lock his eyes.
[00:22:40] If I'm in an outside shade, which is the easiest place to start, if I'm in an outside shade, so I'm a three tech outside shade of the guard, I'm in a one tech outside shade of the center. Everybody's outside shade of the center or head up. There's no inside shade of the center. Right. I'm outside shade of the guard, I'm outside shade of the tackle.
[00:22:57] Lock his eyes on the bottom [00:23:00] corner of the outside number, right? So if he's number 65, I'm looking at the bottom corner of that five. And what the bottom corner ... It's focus. The more specific you give the focus ... Where was I that somebody was talking about the specifics of focus? Oh, somebody was talking about me- Thing in Chicago?
[00:23:19] Huh? Is it your Chicago thing? Well-
[00:23:25] Somebody was talking about how important it was to make the, the focus super specific, and if you make the focus super specific, all these things happen. Was it the football coaching podcast about two weeks ago? Probably, but I mean, I, I, I heard it somewhere else too. Somebody was, like, really getting into the, the hyperfocus and the importance of that.
[00:23:45] Anyway, you give them that spot to hyperfocus on. It's easier to focus when you have a very, very specific thing to do, a very specific thing to look at. The more [00:24:00] general... The bottom corner of the outside number is very specific. The belt buckle is very specific. Jerry Campbell used to do things with the, with the belt buckle, I think.
[00:24:09] But now a lot of kids don't even have that, so. You know, the, the s- we used to have specific things like the screws of the helmet. Now the helmets are wacky. Right? The helmets are all over the place. So- A little more dif- The bottom corner of the outside number. Now, what does that do that the screws of the helmet doesn't, besides the screws not always being where they're supposed to be?
[00:24:30] Where are the screws of the helmet? Daniel The screws of the helmet are... Well, hell, they're all over the place. Most of them still have the thing But where are they always? They're at the top of the player. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Touche. If you want your player to play lower, get his eyes down. Right. Get his focus down.
[00:24:49] Strike Point and Big Surface Technique
[00:24:49] Focus on the bottom corner of the outside number. Now I teach the strike point, whether it's with hands or we teach big surface in the defensive drill system, whatever it is. I teach big surface, which is [00:25:00] the an uppercut basically with the front deltoid, bicep, forearm the, the, the knuckle tucked into the belly button and, and doing that po- kind of power clean uppercut, 'cause they had so many weak young defensive linemen.
[00:25:12] And I could get their talking high school, in an off season I could get their squat up to 300. I could get their clean up to 200, and I'm stuck with a bench press that's 165 pounds. I can, I can accelerate the growth of their lower body much faster than their upper body, so I took the weak point out, which is the hands.
[00:25:30] The arms, not the hands. The hands are fine. Just watched Bixby's head football coach, who's their O-line coach, coaching the flipper just the other day. It's amazing. Yeah. It's, it is universal. Awesome. It is... It's so good. Every age. I mean, look, I had this idea, and Chennis Berry, who is now... Where is Chennis Berry at now?
[00:25:49] We talked about it on the podcast. Chennis Berry is offensive coordinator at
[00:25:58] Northern? Is he back at some [00:26:00] He was the head co football coach at Benedict
[00:26:07] South Carolina State now. Wow. So yeah, he's the head coach of South Carolina State now, I believe. He was the offensive line coach at Southern, and offensive coordinator, and he did a Glazer Clock talk about it, and talking about they got smaller offensive linemen and, and then they had to play against these mammoth, you know, all, all these guys.
[00:26:26] A- and and then I heard I can't remember his name, he played in the NFL I think for the Saints, and he was South Carolina, University of South Carolina's offensive line coach, and he was using the exact same thing in their combos specifically, but he was using it too, using that big surface for blocking.
[00:26:41] We, so I, I looked at some defensive lines that were undersized but were just, they were always knocking guys back. And I know a lot of times with the defensive line coaches, you wanna like s- establish that new line of scrimmage. Now, I'm not gonna focus on that unless it's a true base block, and we see so little [00:27:00] true base block that it's not a major focus of reestablishing a new line of scrimmage and knocking that guy back.
[00:27:05] But I watched them, I watched their film, and that's what was happening. They were, they were upper cutting through the guys, not pushing them. And I just, I, I adopted that years ago. But, but the hands work too, and sometimes you'll have guys who are already doing the hands, and that's fine. But it's all about taking my eye- my eyes are completely focused on that strike point, is what we call it, and I'm taking my hands or my f- big surface, and I am taking it, I am taking every bit of my strength and ability through that strike point.
[00:27:39] And what that strike point does will then dictate my reaction. As I attack it, first step I am loading. Second step, just like an offensive lineman, first step I am loading. Second step, I am coming at it full force. Third step, I am reacting to what that strike point has done, and that strike point can either be blocked to, block away, or [00:28:00] pass.
[00:28:00] And again, I talk about the Rex Ryan book- Rexy?
[00:28:08] Rexy Like you're calling a dog. I was confused Rexy
[00:28:18] Coaching Football's 46 Defense. Not the best football manual I've ever read, but the best chapter on defensive line play that I have ever read. And that's where I pulled the-- Starts on page 29. You see there's a lot of coffee stains and stuff on this 'cause I've read it a decent amount. Defensive line versus the run, and this is where the-- I, I don't use this exactly.
[00:28:41] It's not gonna focus 'cause of the light. But defensive line play versus the run
[00:28:50] is where we started learning block to and block away are the only blocks that there are. And then I got into the Miami 4-3 and, and learned that, that basically, you know, block away [00:29:00] is run away, and block away turns out to be the most important one, not knocking the guy back. But block away is the most important one.
[00:29:07] But guys, if we put all of our focus on drilling the key read, okay? Obviously, when we're drilling the key read, we're making sure that we're in the right shade. If we're slanting, by the way, we slant to a shade. So if I'm lined up and I slant outside, I slant to the bottom corner of the outside number. If I slant inside, I slant to the bottom corner of the inside number closest to the ball.
[00:29:30] Or again, the outside number can be the number away from the middle. Somebody had a, a, the near-- There's like the near Somebody worded it differently and I loved it, and I thought about it. And I think I was in Boston when I was reading this magazine- Was it Oil? Huh? Oil? Have you ever heard of Oil? No.
[00:29:50] You talking about offensive line play, or you talking about defensive line play? No, defensive line play. Hmm. It was one of our coaches who just... He told me that one of the things... I sent out an email. I'll have to find the email, 'cause [00:30:00] I sent out an email and said, you know, "What are the things that I do?"
[00:30:02] 'Cause when we did the first episode of this season, the 21 things coaches disagreed with me about, I asked, "What do you guys disagree with me about?" And one of the coaches said, "You know, I never liked that you know, the inside is the inside of the man," or whatever like that, and he changed it to the near.
[00:30:16] He, he changed the wording and I, I wrote him back and I said, "You know, that makes sense to call it the near." I'll have to find my response for it, because it made sense at the time, and I, I immediately forgot about it and then need to go back and pull it up. Email us, Coach. I know you're listening. I've g- I've got the email, but yes, remind me.
[00:30:33] So anyway, put all of the focus on that. Because every single time that you do the key read drill, you start in a stance. So you're working on the stance, and obviously you're looking at the alignment. Is he shaded correctly? And we're going to drill everybody at the same time, so you're going to get lots of reps because everybody's just working this one-on-one game, as we've talked about in individual drills in the podcast on indie drills that was back July 9th.
[00:30:57] So it was back episode one of this [00:31:00] season. Focusing on the one-on-one game. When you work at the defensive alignment, the one-on-one game is not me verse the guard, me verse the tackle. It is me and that bottom corner of the outside number. That's the one-on-one game. It is me focusing on that and me reacting correctly to what that bottom corner of the outside number does.
[00:31:18] So I have to have the correct alignment to where that bottom corner of the outside number is right where I want it to be, unless I'm head up and slanting, and then I have to have the right footwork to get to it. And then I have to have the, the focus on it, and I have to have the right stance so that I'm inside hand, down inside foot back.
[00:31:33] That's what it was with the stance, and we want a near hand down, near foot back, rather than inside hand down, inside foot back. Made sense to me. Make it... We got there eventually. Inside, instead of inside hand down, inside foot back, which is what always has been said, he wanted inside to mean toward the ball and something else to mean middle.
[00:31:51] So I think I, I, I thought near hand down, near hand back would be a better you know, or man, I think he said something like man hand down, man hand back. You know, something like that. [00:32:00] Yeah. So whatever you want, near hand down, man hand down. Closest to the man is down inside foot back, so you gotta be in that great stance where you can get off the ball and strike quickly.
[00:32:09] So we're gonna continue to focus on the stance every time we run that key read drill. Then we run the key read drill, and it's all just focused on that one-on-one game and the reaction to where the bottom corner of the outside number does. And guys, it is the rest of this podcast, you can just turn this off because that's it.
[00:32:23] If you get that right, you can turn this off and go join JDFP Premium Coaching Systems, 'cause you still need the actual drills. But that's it. That's the world. That's what it all comes down to, because that's gonna-- Look, all the problems we just fixed. We got your stance right. We got your alignment right.
[00:32:38] We got your level down because your eyes are down, and you're gonna strike that bottom corner, so you're gonna have leverage because you're striking around the belt line of that guy. So you're gonna have the leverage. You don't need the chutes. And your eyes, the biggest mistake young defensive linemen make, it's not that their level is too high.
[00:32:59] What are they [00:33:00] doing when their level is high? They're looking in the backfield for the ball- And, and, and nothing. And getting, and getting demolished for it. Yeah. And so we're fixing that by giving them something else to look at, something else to react to. You're gonna have to drill it. It's not automatic.
[00:33:14] But we're gonna work it every single day, and we're gonna get their eyes down here so that they're not standing up looking in the backfield for the ball, and instead they're reacting and they're trying to defeat the block based on what they do. So you're solving so many def- And you're solving the problem of getting up the field and getting kicked out, because we're going to be working that in our key read drill.
[00:33:32] This simple key read drill, five reactions, will solve almost all of your defensive line problems that you're having. It really will. And, and, and, and along with the drill, you're working on the alignment because we see a lot of alignment problems, we see a lot of stance problems, wrong hand down, you know, too, too high, too this, but you're working that every day when you work this drill.
[00:33:54] It's, it's magic, and you don't need any equipment for [00:34:00] this, and nobody's standing around other than if you got a, you know, one extra guy, and he can key read off of me, like, right? Yeah. You know, we're not killing each other. So I mean, this is, you can do it off a pad. You can do it off ... You can do it in the, in, in the, in the off-season with a, with a shield.
[00:34:16] We do it with a shield in the off-season with no pads. It's non-contact. Nobody's gonna get hurt. I mean, this is... We're just- You're, you're teaching your football player everything they need to know with this drill. That's it. So a drill that I'm using right now with six-year-olds, so I, it, it does work everywhere.
[00:34:36] I don't know if it scales yet, but we literally just chase that near hip- ... as my target point. So it doesn't, nothing, nothing change. I don't have to teach a six-year-old, "Well, if the play's at ya, fight outside, and if the play's away, run the..." No, I don't have to teach them that. Put your hands on his outside hip, and now your body's naturally in a position for a six-year-old- [00:35:00] Yeah, right
[00:35:00] at the first grade level, you have now from a shaded position filled your gap. You've squeezed a down block. I don't ever teach them what a down block is or how to sh- how to, how to squeeze it. I just say, "Make sure your hands touch the hip of that guy." And that's that's big, right? Because it, it solves a...
[00:35:18] Now, here's the other deal is nobody here is running power. It's- Right. You're, you're just getting- The same thing that you said last night on the, the, I almost said chalkboard forum, but your, Chalk Talk ... weekly call. Chalk Talk. Everybody has little Ts above their offensive lineman at my level. And guys, I understand this doesn't correlate 100% to what you're doing, but I want you to do is find the concept and simplify it to your level.
[00:35:40] Where are you coaching ball? Make this concept fit. Because all we get is little Ts, then if I hit that outside hip, I'm in my gap. It's great. It works really, really well. We've done that in the past and, and told them the, the way that we've used that, whether it's the hip or the bottom corner, we've told them we did this a lot with slant technique you're free [00:36:00] once you touch that.
[00:36:03] You're free to go find the ball. Yep. Run it. We love it. Until you touch that strike point, you are not ... Y- you've got to touch that strike point, and what that does is we get down block, it immediately squeezes us down. If we get past set away from the ball, we're going up the field. If we get reach block, like you said, I gotta touch that, so I gotta be outside.
[00:36:26] Yep. Base block is the one that I go straight at it. He comes at me, and it's like, "Well, I got pressure now." Yeah. Now I gotta beat the block. Now I gotta post hip rip. All those things will work. The other thing I want to add here before we move on a- and, and it, I ... We've touched on all of this, but that's, that's how the
[00:36:39] It's how simple drills are, and we make them very convoluted, but they're so simple Anyway, just make sure you're breaking down whatever your expectations are of your D-line. Okay? So I can't tell you what pieces to break down, but watch your game film. Same thing I say every time, solve a problem, but break down that expectation to the smallest pieces and then drill that.
[00:36:59] [00:37:00] So if you, if your guys need to work hand fighting, I don't have to start in a three-point stance and run at a guy who's gonna body me anyway to try to work hand fighting. I can just stand in front of him and practice different things. Look, if he gets locked into my chest plate and he's about to drive me like a freaking go-kart, what am I doing?
[00:37:22] Am I breaking his wrists up? Am I breaking them down? Am I sweeping? Like what, what do you want them to do? And break that down. Don't give them all three options. Give them one that they're really good at. Maybe watch them do all three and then say, "This is your one." But, but work hand work. But that doesn't take
[00:37:39] You don't have to play the rest of the football game to do that. I don't need the, the offense over there running power read for me to work hand fighting. No. Just stand in front of the other guy, give him the advantage, break out of the advantage. Because if you start with him at an advantage and you win, you definitely are gonna win on Friday night when the guy's like, he [00:38:00] still has to like reach out there and grab you, right?
[00:38:01] He doesn't get to start with his hands on you. If it's, and, and this is where the hoop drill, and that's why I say sometimes old school thing had a reason. If it is dipping a shoulder and ripping through to get around the edge for your defensive end, right? That can be with a pad. It doesn't necessarily be, need to be a hoop.
[00:38:19] I think the hoop was to teach like found- maybe that's off-season version of this. Yeah, it teaches you a little- Foundationally, fundamentally ... it teaches you lean, but it's not, it's- I need- ... it becomes more of a conditioning drill. Yeah. I need to get that hand, I need to get like almost like that elbow down and, and drag the ground and get around this guy.
[00:38:34] But now we've gotta do something different. Give a pad to a guy. What is it you are expecting your kids to do? What do they suck at? Fix that thing. It could be into the double team, right? You talk about building those, those drills out Starts with a key read. I'm trying to reach my strike point. Well, it turns out when he blocked to me and I hit my strike point, his buddy went hip to hip, and now I'm in the middle of a double team.
[00:38:59] You can [00:39:00] start there. I think about martial arts a l- a lot, right? A lot of time in martial arts, I've watched my son go, I've done very little training, but you put people to disadvantage automatically. You start there. So start there. Start with the all O-line hip to hip. We don't even have to run at each other and go on a cadence.
[00:39:16] Get good at the skill you're trying to get good at. So start in that disadvantage and then, and then break free. Win. Figure out how to win from there. And that way, when I am using my speed to kind of get there faster than they can get their hips together, I'm already at a better place. But that, that's my thing on building those out, building out those drills, is find the little things you're trying to work.
[00:39:40] This doesn't have to come from a drill book, guys. It's just you sucked at this last week. We gotta get better at it. We focus a lot on the key reads around here, 'cause that's what JDFB's about. It's about giving your kid a single thing to read. It's the ASCA, and now we're gonna have a response to that.
[00:39:54] It's not 14 what ifs or if thens. It's realistically for D-line, it's [00:40:00] three. Block away, block two, or pass set. That's it, right? But linebackers, same thing. You can kind of get into every other position. But- ... anyway, so let's go on to the part where these transfer to the field, Joe. That's kind of the second part here, and, and, and once again, it's so simple.
[00:40:13] We've said it a million times, but
[00:40:16] Defensive Line Drills That Transfer to the Field
[00:40:30] how do we ensure that our D-line stuff is focusing on what we're gonna see on the field or what will transfer? So, you know, I wanted to, to, you know, as I said, in the, in the defensive drill system, you can see all the film, see it executed on the field. But I want to go through the the actual drills.
[00:40:34] Yes. Let me share my screen before I do that. If you can't see, get to YouTube, boys. Yeah. It'll be out Tuesday if you're listening on Thursday. Let me share the screen here. So When you work these drills, we basically work five reactions, okay? And there's not much that happens, and really not anything that happens, that doesn't fall into these categories. So, you know, I, I [00:41:00] always talk about the non-negotiables, and the one thing that our defensive lineman must be able to do is squeeze a down block.
[00:41:06] So one of the reactions is a down block, and that's a block away. Now, he could be down blocking, but he could also be pulling away from me, and the reaction is the same. I try to get to that bottom corner of the outside number, he goes down, and I just bend down the line of scrimmage. And the, the teaching
[00:41:27] Then again, I got this from, you know, Tommy Tuberville and the 4-3 defense videos that put out years and years ago, Miami 4-3, block away is run away. So if he blocks away from you, you treat it as if it is toss sweep to the far side of the field. That will create-- We had this question last night, "How do you drill the wrong arm?"
[00:41:46] We don't. Yeah. Because if that guy comes now to kick me out, I have a natural wrong arm as long as I treat block away as run away and go flat down the line of scrimmage. And [00:42:00] so all I need to drill is that down block. If I get a base block, block two All I'm gonna do on a base block is that point comes straight to me, I'm striking it, and then I am going to post my outside hand or if I'm striking with the big surface, it's gonna be a natural, and I'm gonna drive my hip up the field into that gap.
[00:42:25] And then when I drive my hip up into the gap, I am then going to the third part. Again, we talk post, hip, and rip, but the post doesn't really happen. It's just to make sure that our inside or our outside arm in this case or our far arm is you know, driving into him. And then I'm gonna drive the hip, and it's all about the hip.
[00:42:43] And that's one of the things from the Rex Ryan book that was so important was it's always been taught in defensive line, hat and hands, hat and hands, hat and hands, all this kind of stuff. And Rex Ryan in that 46 manual said that the hat [00:43:00] and the hands do not control the gap. You have control of the gap if your hip is in the gap.
[00:43:10] So we strike and if it comes at us, we drive the hip into the gap, okay? So if I'm, if I'm shaded, my right hand is towards the man, so like I'm a left guard and, or I'm a left tackle or, or aligned on the left and a three tech on their right guard, whatever it is. I'm on, I'm on, my right hand is down, my inside hand is closest to the ball is my right hand, okay?
[00:43:36] I'm, I'm in that B gap. That's what I'm gonna be responsible for on a base block. We don't talk about that, but a base block, my reaction is to drive the hip into that B gap to control it, okay? So I'm gonna strike and I'm gonna drive my left hand or my left hip into the gap to control it. Then we're gonna use our three-man rip drill.
[00:43:56] That's one of our base drills in the defensive drill system. And I am going to rip [00:44:00] through with my, my man hand, my inside hand, my, my near hand, okay? And rip that hand through to get his hands off of me and control the gap in that way. Now- Do, what do we do for wrong arm? We don't teach a wrong arm drill.
[00:44:18] What do we do for double team? I'm not gonna teach a guy how to get his butt kicked. He's not gonna fall to the ground. When he drives that hip into the ground, he is splitting the double team naturally with his natural reaction. Driving that hip will take control of the gap and split the double team so that he is not driven.
[00:44:38] Keeping that low leverage of striking in the bottom corner of the outside number keeps low leverage to split the double team, and I drive my hip and I split the double team in that way, and that's how we teach, and then I rip through and I can beat the double team. Is he going to beat the double team every single time?
[00:44:54] No. But if he s- the double team, usually when they get carried is they stand up and, and play up [00:45:00] high, and then both guys get up underneath him and they go for a ride. Yeah. We keep this low pad level by playing the key read drill bottom quarter of the outside number, driving the hip into the gap.
[00:45:09] That's how we win the block. Now, now he goes to reach block me. That's my third one. So as I go to strike, I notice that he is ... I notice that strike point moving us outside of me, moving around me. And so now I'm going to adjust my footwork, but it's still block two. So I, now I'm gonna be posting the outside arm on his outside shoulder.
[00:45:32] I'm gonna start driving the hip to get around him, and I'm gonna start ripping the inside arm. And usually on the reach block it may take two or three times to rip through, but it's block through. Notice that all it is is post-hip rip, just from a different angle now, okay? And that's how I defeat the reach block.
[00:45:49] So we're going to drill block away, block to base block, block to reach block. Now, what if the strike point goes [00:46:00] backwards, okay? Youth coaches, cut this crap out, 'cause you're not gonna get this. Yeah, delete this part. Just, just go to the next one. Just, just ignore this. Just ignore all, everything else. You just got everything you have to do, okay?
[00:46:12] You actually can stop- And, and a lot of high school coaches- Yeah ... you can skip all this stuff until they get good at the first three, 'cause that's what matters, okay? But I get a pass set, he, that hip doesn't come at me, it goes away, or it just stays sometimes. Sometimes they just drop down and, you know, they, they, they play at the line of scrimmage.
[00:46:28] They don't jump un- unless it's a jump set, that's the only time you're gonna get something different. And then you would post hip and rip it. If it goes away, now I am in my pass rush lane, pass rush moves, and I am trying to get my hip even with his hip. In pass rushing, again, hips are ... hips don't lie.
[00:46:48] We've, we, we gotta say it. Shakira, Shakira, okay? If you get your hips even with the offensive lineman, you win the pass rush. Okay? Now in our drill, we're [00:47:00] not gonna be doing a ton of hand fighting. It's just the reaction. We do drill the hand fighting for like two minutes. Like you said, we just partner up and we, we work post hip r- we work post hip rip, which is one pass rush move that we use everywhere.
[00:47:13] Denny Marsan, who was the Jets defensive line coach, I think Giants too, talked about Michael Strahan, two pass rush moves. You guys doing 19,000 pass rush moves, you're wasting your time. Swim move, you're wasting your time with anybody who's not of a certain stature and size, and it's more of a punch, not a, not a, a swim.
[00:47:30] We do some bull rushing, push pull. We do you know, post hip rip, speed rush. Those are the things that we're gonna do to beat him. But it's mostly hands. You use a little chop, things like that. But if we get the pass set, we go into our pass rush lanes, pass rush moves. We don't cross over the center. If we're outside, if we're an outside contain, we teach pass rush lanes where everybody has a job, everybody has a lane that they have to fill in a four-man rush.
[00:47:56] There is an, a outside shoulder rusher. There [00:48:00] is an inside eye or an outside eye rusher. So you've got your, you know, if you've got four rushers usually they are looking at the quarterback and they are staying now in their rush lanes. We never let an outside rusher duck inside because that's how that athletic quarterback gets outside and runs for days.
[00:48:16] We never cross over the center because that's how we end up creating gigantic passing, pass release lanes, inside release lanes for an athletic quarterback. But we teach that i- in, in seven-on-seven period really is where we work our pass rush. So we'll work a little pass rush lanes. We have a five-man pass rush drill where it's one-on-one pass rush, but with everybody getting the first two steps because you do one-on-one pass rush, that is the dumbest thing in the world.
[00:48:41] Everybody's standing around except for two guys. Don't do that, okay? Make everybody do something. We have all these in our defensive drill system. We don't have time to get into all of them 'cause we're almost out of time anyway. The last one that a lot of people forget is you get past set You go into your pass rush move, and then about two steps in, he leaves Oh, no.
[00:48:59] That's screen[00:49:00]
[00:49:02] retrace. We work it every day because even though we don't
[00:49:08] scree- see screen against every team, we will see screen in our script every single week because what happens is you don't see screen for three weeks, then all of a sudden somebody screens you for 65 yards. So you want that to happen and then we never get beat by the screen again. We want that to happen on Wednesday and Thursday, not on Friday or Saturday.
[00:49:27] So we get screen retrace, we just follow him because he's going to block the guy where the ball is going. So wherever he goes and I'll tell him, you know, "Release inside or release outside," and that tackle just gotta follow, that, that defensive lineman's just gotta follow him. 'Cause that's- That's what transfers to the field
[00:49:47] That's ... There's nothing else happening. Block two, block away. Block two can be a base block or a reach block. He can pass set or he can screen retrace [00:50:00] That will transfer to the field. Once I've reacted to that, then I'm chasing the ball, I'm making the tackle, I'm being a football player. Okay? Those, you have your tackling drill progression.
[00:50:12] Again, in the defensive drill system we have all that. We have our rip drill. We use rip drill, rip move for everything to defeat a block. You know, you, you chase the ball, chase the ball carrier. We have approach drills and all that sort of stuff. You, you know, hips control the gap. This is what translates to the field.
[00:50:28] And again, you've got your favorites and you've got your things, and that's fine. If you wanna waste time in practice, that's fine, do it. As long as your head coach is okay with it, waste all the time you want. Just winning is a social construct. Who cares? But This is the stuff that will actually make a good defensive line that wins football games.
[00:50:48] And it's not complicated, and it's not shiny, and it's not, it's not necessarily fun, but your guys understand it, they see it translate to the field. And you know what's fun? Defeating the block, winning the one-on-one game, and winning the [00:51:00] actual diagonal football game. Those things are fun. And the reason that this doesn't have to be super-duper fancy and fun is because we don't have a 40-minute indie period for you to fill time.
[00:51:11] Eight minutes, 12 minutes. Again, during seven on seven we're doing hand fighting- Pass rush ... you know, that kind of stuff, and we're doing pass rush. We do a five-man pass rush drill, five on five pass rush drill. So we have 10 guys active at all times, one guy pretending to be the quarterback. So we got a, I can get 11 guys active in this drill at all times.
[00:51:29] They are all taking the first two steps, and then only one of them, one, only one pair is live, and the offensive lineman knows who's live. By the way, in this drill I stand behind the defensive line. I tell the offensive line what to do, and I'm just signaling them. For those of you on YouTube, the signals are the signals are down block.
[00:51:46] I tell them which way to go, down this way or down right or down left I make the little two fingers waving sign, for those of you in the, in the things. If I want a base block, I just point thumbs at me, block him. So just go straight at him. If I want a [00:52:00] reach block, I make a big circle which way, whichever way I want him to reach.
[00:52:04] Big, big circle fingers go around him. Right? It's more about the reaction to the footwork than the actual block, but all of these drills are pro wrestling. Make it look good, but he's gonna win assuming he does it right. The, the, the defensive lineman, the guy who's actually running the drill is gonna win.
[00:52:19] The offensive lineman is gonna make it look good. If you were looking from a distance, the perfect rep of this looks like that guy was really trying to block him and that defensive lineman did a fantastic job reacting and winning the block, which is what you want. Every time. If it's pass I just do a throwing motion.
[00:52:32] If it's screen retrace, I make a screen, a, a square with my fingers then point which direction he's gonna release. And I stand behind him and I do all that. You can see all of this in the defensive drill system, see it happen, see how the, the, the drills work. And you can see me teach it to guys who haven't done it in a few minutes.
[00:52:47] You, you install them individually. So I teach you how to, how to follow a down block. I teach you how to defeat a base block. I teach you how to defeat a reach block. I teach you how to defeat a ... But usually we just do, you know, on day one we'll just [00:53:00] do two, and we teach them, and then we start to mix them.
[00:53:03] And eventually as you get into the season, you're mixing all five of them, but there's always a focus, right? This week we're playing a heavy gap scheme. There's gonna be more down blocks than anything. This week we're playing an inside zone team. There's gonna be more base blocks. This week we're playing a g- really good outside zone reach block whatever.
[00:53:20] We're gonna do more reach blocks. This week we're playing an air raid. They're gonna be pass setting all day. We do more pass sets. We don't really play teams that run more screens than anything else, but there may be more screens because that's a more dangerous play for some teams than others. And so you vary up how much of it you do.
[00:53:36] And then we will go into the third part of the episode in just a minute Love it I, I don't really have a lot to add. Y- you know, things that transfer to field, it, a lot of times it gets rid of the gimmicky stuff. You don't, you- Joe not one time said, "Pull out five bags and lay them on the ground." He didn't say pull the chutes and the ladders, and he didn't say pull the sled over Your indie period, like, once again, what skill are you trying [00:54:00] to fix?
[00:54:01] You've got kids available. Even when you don't, if you have one defensive lineman, you're in a bad place anyways. And if you have two, then it's one-on-one. So you have the kids available. You have enough, yeah. So, so they need to be working what the game feels like. Now, I'm in a position right now, right, where my fifth offensive lineman is a quarter of the size of everybody else on the team, right?
[00:54:24] He's a little bitty guy. He's got heart like none other. Aiden is his name, and absolutely just getting after it is his game. But Aiden is not an offensive lineman, but he has to be 'cause that's what we got. Okay? And you're gonna have those kids, so you may not get a good-on-good look during these drills, so that's when you need to make sure you're focusing on the fundamentals.
[00:54:46] You have to get back to, like- ... what are, what am I supposed to... Aiden is a six-year-old who cannot block me whatsoever, but I can still go out there and have him put a hand on me, and I can work a hand fighting. Okay? So it's all about the [00:55:00] intent behind the drill, having your guys look good. Once again, I cannot restate enough, you've gotta watch film to see what your kids need to know what drills you need this week.
[00:55:11] This is why we are not big everyday drill guys. Now, offensive line and I have been a little bit coerced to, there are some every... We need to work getting hip-to-hip and working double with teams. We need to work some stuff. But this is not an offensive line episode. Defense, you've gotta work what your kids need to work.
[00:55:27] There are not everyday drills. Now, you could fight and say the key read drill is an everyday drill- Yeah ... but it's probably solving a problem that you're seeing. If your guys are just nailing their key reads, it might be two minutes of just reminding them what it is, and then let's go find the thing they suck at and work at that.
[00:55:43] But I bet there's one of them they're not great at. Let's get in the last part here, Joe, before we go. We're almost at an hour already, and we're on the third part. Progression, and, and this is where I was gonna go with the last piece is the focus. And we've talked all month, all season about having that focus in your practice period.
[00:55:58] Progressing Drills From Indies to Group to Team
[00:55:58] There's gotta be a [00:56:00] thing that you're focused on, and it needs to show up in indies, it needs to show up in group, and it needs to show up in team. Because I can't go to indie and talk about squeezing down blocks and go to group and we're fighting power, fight the power, and then go to team, and it's outside zone all day.
[00:56:16] We can't, we can't do that. It has to be tied together, which is why we love scripting stuff. But that's how you progress your defensive drills, your defensive line drills. And, and here's the deal, if, if you're pretty mediocre at everything, you solve the little problems you have- The team this week doesn't run it.
[00:56:37] Maybe your Indy, you gotta split it a little bit, right? Maybe Indy in group is split. Look, we suck at squeezing down blocks. This team is all zone, okay? We're, we're playing the team from Texas and all they do is inside zone, outside zone and duo. There's not a down block. Okay, we, we get that. You need to work the thing, but you also have to get good at this week's opponent.
[00:56:57] So you've gotta do a little bit of [00:57:00] maneuvering there and splitting stuff up. You're still progressing those things throughout the week to get good at, at whatever the offensive attack is this week. Anyway, Joe, how do you recommend we progress to stop any offensive attack re- kinda regardless of what we're gonna see this week?
[00:57:16] And in general, the progression is going to involve, as the season goes on, shorter Indy time, because our Indy drills, if we keep Indy long, and we've mastered the, the defensive line key read drill as an example. If we've mastered that drill, and it, th- like you said, you probably haven't mastered it, but if you need to focus on screen retrace, you don't need 10 minutes to focus on screen retrace.
[00:57:44] You know, you mix it up. We try to get guys four, five, six reps. You know, might be us- be couple minutes. And then we can get into to different game-like situations. So I can start lining you up with a two-man, you know, pods, a two-on-one pod, [00:58:00] where I've got two offensive linemen, and you can be in the outside shade, and sometimes they're both gonna down block, and I wanna see you bend.
[00:58:08] And sometimes he's, the guy you're on is gonna pull, and that guy's gonna block back on him because you're on a, you know, if you're on a guard, let's say sometimes it's a, it's a trap or it's a, it's a power away from you, and you've gotta learn how to fight through that block back. We had a question about that.
[00:58:25] You know, do you cross face or do you go up the field? And it, or do you, do you go ... And I don't teach crossing face, but I teach you've got to go through the center. Well, we all know logistically, what he was saying was either we try to cross the face and that leaves the backside gap open, or we don't cross the face and he was going up the field and leaving the underneath cutback open.
[00:58:44] And one of the things we talked about was you've got to teach him that he's got to go through the block back by the center. Now, going through him, we know that he's not actually going to go through him, because it's illegal, and there'd be a lot of [00:59:00] blood. But how he goes quote unquote "through him" is to go very tight, stay flat to the line of scrimmage and get there, and that means you might go behind the center, depending on his leverage, if that's the easiest place to go, but you're gonna go, you know, rip through the center behind him, or you're gonna rip across the center's face potentially in front of him to get flat down the line of scrimmage, because you just wanna get flat down the line of scrimmage The problem is if you...
[00:59:29] What, what, what, what was happening was he wasn't trying to go through the center and so the, the, the problem was he was going around the center, which meant going two, three, four yards deep in the backfield, which basically meant the center was driving him out and opening up the cutback lane. So you can create this pods environment where you're getting, you know, a, a base block, base block, you're getting down block, down block by the two guys, and then you're getting pull inside and a block back or a down block of which would be a block two, but not by the guy.
[00:59:59] That's [01:00:00] where you're getting the, "Okay, the guy that I'm keying on went away. I go to follow him, and now a second guy comes in." And so we start to teach those things. You can work double teams if you want to, but again, I find it not, not to be valuable. We can go to that. Then we can go to the things we talked about in the group run period.
[01:00:15] That's where you're at right now is we can go to half line, we can go to inside drill, and that's how you elevate these. You still focus on, hey, if we're focusing on defeating power today, and we're gonna be working a lot of half line power We're going to spend a lot of time, we're gonna spend our, our four minutes, five minutes working, you know, a lot of down block.
[01:00:37] And so when I, when we partner up, it's gonna be down block, base block, down block. I always go and, like, think of threes, right? Down block, base block, down block. Down block, reach block, down block. Screen retrace, down block, down block. Like, two down blocks for every other rep that we get that day. Then we're gonna go to our half line immediately and, or as close to immediate as we can, and depending on the [01:01:00] schedule, and we are going to go into power, where we're seeing down block, down block, down block, down block, and we're squeezing the down block.
[01:01:07] And we're working that. And again, you can work in an outside zone or something just to give them a different look, but that's what they're working on. And that's the progression, and then as you go, as you see them progress from one-on-one game, you wanna see the focus continue to be where it was in the one-on-one game as you start to add in new pieces.
[01:01:26] That's the big thing in the progression. The big thing in the progression is not now I learn how to take on three, you know, a, a half line. Now I learn how to take on run period only. Now I learn... No, the, the, the, the progression is learning how to keep doing the same one-on-one game and blocking out all of the distractions around you until you have won that one-on-one game, because here is the deal.
[01:01:57] If you do not win that one-on-one game, [01:02:00] you are not doing any of the other things. You are not be- making the tackle, you are not getting the sack, you are not getting any- you're not doing any of the things if you don't win the first one-on-one game. If you don't win the first one-on-one game, the best thing that you can do is hustle, because you might be able to, to get there and make the tackle 12 yards down the field behind you.
[01:02:19] And that's great. We all love hustle guys. But we'd rather that tackle have been made at the point. I don't, I don't really have a, a lot to, to add to this piece. Joe, you, you've kinda killed it all night. I, I think that as you get into if you're a D-line coach or you're a defense coordinator trying to set up these drills for a, a newer D-line coach or whatever that looks like to you, you have to understand that every, every single offense, if you cut out all the flair, all the fluff, and you just look at the O-line, every offense is the same stuff.
[01:02:57] Okay? It's ... And this is why plays [01:03:00] have names. It's Buck, it's Power, it's a version of Counter, it's a Zone play, it's the youth block a T. There's not a lot going on. In each of those things, these drills we've been talking about, primarily the key reads, which is why we really focus on practicing these key reads so much, but it's going, your D-line can stop them all.
[01:03:23] Okay? If it's Buck Sweep, anybody that's reading a guard is running to where the ball's gonna go. Anybody that's reading a tackle is squeezing a down block. Your backside guy gets a, you know, a, a reach hinge or a down hinge or whatever, your gap hinge, whatever you're calling yours, and they gotta figure that out.
[01:03:40] The, it starts away and then all of a sudden he's in my face, I need to work over and run heel line. He's doing the same thing that we just did with the center. I, I got a down block- Yeah ... then he stopped and turned, and I gotta go through it, so. Yeah, exactly. I,
[01:03:52] Handling Secondary Blocks and Pulling Linemen
[01:03:52] I think one piece you need to, to study a little bit, and I call it kinda that secondary event, that secondary block I'm a three tech, I'm on a guard, he pulls to, to go kick or wrap.
[01:04:05] Doesn't matter to me. He pulls. As I'm chasing a hip, what's, what do I run into? A center who's blocking back. Right. Now what? So have that in mind, right? My first key read ran away. My target zone, whatever you wanna call it, ran away, and now all of a sudden another guy is, is, is hitting me. That's where you need to un- it almost turns into, "Okay, now I got reach block."
[01:04:30] It's almost the same thing. Yeah, at that point it's a block two, and I have to, I have to use a rip move to get off of it. That's right. That's, that's what I've been doing. Staying down the hill line. Don't let him run me off. Don't let him run me five yards up or downfield. Right. It's kinda, I still just have to kinda stand my ground and own this.
[01:04:45] So secondary events. What's next? My key read did this. It ran me into some tr- 'cause that's what we do. That's, that's what we are really good at is, that's fine. You wanna ... We'll block all the way back to a five. We don't care. If you're gonna chase down here, the center's gonna [01:05:00] blow you up, 'cause we GT counter a lot, obviously.
[01:05:02] So you're chasing a, a, a tackle, you run right into the center. Make his job so easy. So now what, right? So I think once you, th- the progression, you learn that initial key read, you learn what you're supposed to do, and now what could happen. So that might be the only secondary or tertiary piece when you start thinking about.
[01:05:22] But realistically, it doesn't matter who you're facing. We, we get all the how do you stop a, a double wing? How do you stop the wing T? How do you stop, ... Yeah, whatever. It doesn't matter. Yeah ... y- it's, it's, for your D line, it's very simple. There are three things that guy can do, two away or back, I guess four if you wanna count screen retrace, and we're very simply gonna react to those in the same way every single time, and it's gonna put your guys in a position to make plays.
[01:05:49] So then it's just making that play. Yeah. And all of those, and, and by the way, you can, you can create drills to isolate those things if they're a problem. [01:06:00] Yeah. Right? If it's a problem. If you're having a problem with ... But again, this was the thing we talked about on the, on the coach call last night. I'm not relying on that guy to make the play.
[01:06:10] No. It doesn't mean that I ignore him. But when we get the pull inside and the center blocks back, he's not the guy to make the play. No, not at all. Now, but if he runs up the field, it's like the ISO play, right? On the ISO play, the old school I-formation ISO weak side B gap against a four-two-five, okay?
[01:06:29] Obvious place to attack is the weak side B gap bubble. And we can play two I, but the thing that always makes the ISO a good play, we always say if, if, if the will backer fills, no pull fill, he's gonna hammer the ... And I don't care if he fits inside or outside, it doesn't matter. I want him to fit inside, but I really don't care.
[01:06:48] Because when he and the fullback collide in the hole, the hole is gone. Now, the only time that it's not is if he fits inside and the defensive end runs [01:07:00] around the tackle, widening the gap. If the defensive end gets a base block and is striking that guy and working through him tight to him, when we say post-hip rip, we wanna be control of the gap, not up the field.
[01:07:15] And so, as long as we do that, we constrict the gap. So we have to teach them to constrict the gap in order for that to work. And it's always fighting through the block rather than running around the block. The only time we run around the block is the reach block, right? Because that's the only way to defeat a reach block, is he's trying to run around me so yeah, a-and that's
[01:07:34] Well, speed rush on the edge maybe. But that's, that's what it comes down to, and, and if you ... You don't have to have drills for all of those things because you are progressing into your group drills where you're going to see it. Yeah. Now, if you consistently see your team or a specific player failing to react to that or defeat that or just getting [01:08:00] demolished then you create a, what essentially is a pods drill that we talked about before- Yeah
[01:08:05] To work on that. Yep. Love it. Don't, don't be afraid to get into the pods, man. And, and, and honestly, I don't ... I'm to that point where there shouldn't be anybody standing around. Joe, you mentioned earlier, like, if you can get 11 people involved, do that. Can you watch them all? No, especially if you're a solo coach, you absolutely cannot.
[01:08:23] Y- now, there's a whole argument there that, like, perfect practice makes perfect, and so now I've got four guys that may not be perfectly practicing, but they're fighting something. Moving. Perfect. Record your freaking practices, man. Record it, and you can help make it perfect. Yeah. Get in... Look, we used a GoPro top of a 10-foot-tall pole and had a little display screen, and we had a, a water girl.
[01:08:43] Be- between water girling, she was pressing the record button. And now you're getting every play from a bird's-eye view, and you can w- and you can go back and coach it later. But on the ground, you can coach one guy really r- pick it beforehand. Where, I mean, you know, for th- for this stuff, wear the GoPro yourself.
[01:08:58] Yeah. Yeah. I, I have a- Stand behind two guys and watch the [01:09:00] one over here, right? I mean- I've got a chest harness now. It works so good. You can see so much stuff, and you don't have to think about it. Just tell it to go. Yeah. Hell, now they're all voice automated. Record. Good. We're off to the races, so. All right, man, I think we've, I still have my iPhone solution, but my iPhone solution works where I just hold it.
[01:09:14] A lot of coaches don't like that, but I, I film from my pocket. I forget to turn it off. I don't care. There we go. We've checked all the boxes tonight, man. We've, we've gone very deep into some D-line drills. Guys, it, it is not ... Quit overthinking it. And same thing I told a youth coach tonight about conditioning.
[01:09:30] Quit overthinking it. Do the fundamentals. Get really good at those things. It will turn into the big stuff. There's no part of your defense that's so exotic that you need fancy drills. If you've got to go to social media to get your drills you should've been here sooner probably. So if somebody's on social media, send them us.
[01:09:48] You can get ideas for problem solving, but don't go look at a drill. I mean, I think that's important to note. You can look at drills on social media if you really want to, but the key is you're looking for drills that are ... You're looking for ideas for problem [01:10:00] solving. You're not going to social media or even going to me for the drills I'm gonna
[01:10:06] "I need some drills. I got practice tomorrow." That's not gonna be That's not gonna be what you want You're filling time, boys. You're, yeah You're not solving problems. You're filling time You're filling time, you're wasting time. And you're, yeah And that's all you're doing. You're looking for drills that solve problems.
[01:10:19] If you don't know what the problems are, take these drills, start with base block and down block, and then start to build the drills, and then start looking at how these things are happening in your practice, and you'll figure out what the problems are. But you gotta understand that ask. You gotta understand the run fits, you gotta understand all that.
[01:10:37] You gotta have drills that relate to it. And then the problem-solving part is identifying the problems is easy, and then either developing a drill or pulling drills that you know from other places or see from other places, perfectly fine as long as its purpose is to solve your problem and not, "Here's the five everyday drills that this defensive line guy from some division one school told me that I [01:11:00] should run."
[01:11:00] Yeah. For sure. We know it's, it's scrimmage week. Either you just got done with one last Saturday, or your first one is coming up, or you're in Georgia and you're three weeks into your season. We have no idea what you guys are doing down there. I, I- Florida do I'm, I'm so confused And I've got sch- and by the way, I've got schools that, that have not start, will not start practice for when this comes out.
[01:11:20] They'll start practice right around when this comes out. Yeah, that's insane. Both, both, both weird, Anyway, here we are. Belk Era. Everybody's all over the place. That's, that's the hardest part of my job right now is talk to a coach. I'm like, "Where are you at right now?" That's right. And our youth coaches, some of you guys won't start for weeks my first game's Saturday and I'm excited Yeah.
[01:11:40] We've got middle school coaches who won't start till after Labor Day, which I think, you know, when you're working with the young, young kids, wait till after all the vacations are over is an easier path- Yes ... than trying to sort out- I'm not looking forward to the lack of players when school starts and parents are like, "Ah, you know what?
[01:11:57] We had a busy day." It's got to happen. "We cried because math is [01:12:00] hard." There's nothing quite like that first scrimmage. You'll spend kind of all off-season building out a plan, teaching your system, getting all the install, imagining what your team can become, and then the first time somebody lines up across from them that don't know the script, and that's kind of when you find out what's real.
[01:12:14] So if today's conversation gave you an idea to take into your scrimmage or something to talk about through this week, getting your game week next week, whatever that looks like you know, talk to your staff, please do share this episode with another coach who's probably finding out the same stuff about his team right now.
[01:12:31] Tonight we're talking about defensive line drills, building drills on key reads, focusing on drills that transfer to the field, and then progressing to stop any offensive attack. Last week we talked about group run drill periods. Next week we're off to defending the spread option. Still has an S here because Daniel copy-pastes.
[01:12:49] Level up. Joe, what's your level up good sir? All right. This is the, this is not, it's not gonna sound like a s- a super special level [01:13:00] up, but honestly for me, I've probably done this a handful of times in my- listening time. I don't mean to say that this is a bad book in any way, and that's usually the problem.
[01:13:20] So this book, I almost hesitate to mention the name of the book, but I will mention it because if, like, if this is what you're looking for, it's a good book. I think it's, I think it's a decent book. I'll say that. It's a decent book. It's called Turn the Ship Around. And I've mentioned before, I listen to a podcast.
[01:13:36] It's a, it's a paid site- ... called morningcoach.com. JB Glossinger is the guy that runs it, and really was the reason that I started this business in 2008 to begin with, or what was footballdefense.com. And it's a-- The Morning Coach is just a, the heart of it is like a 15 to 20 minute podcast every morning that kind of gets, just gets me started [01:14:00] right, and it is worth...
[01:14:00] It is not cheap, but it is worth the investment for me. And they do a book study every month. This month is Extreme Ownership, which I will listen to all the podcasts, but I'm not gonna listen to the book alongside of it because I know the book and I don't feel I need to listen to it right now. The book I'm listening to now will be my level-up next week, I expect, and it'll be an interesting level-up.
[01:14:21] This book, Turn the Ship Around, was the, was the book that Morning Coach did in July, and so I got it to follow along 'cause I didn't listen to it. It's a leadership book. David Marquette is it two authors? Again, I feel bad for mentioning all of this. So I, I'm gonna say David Marquette, 'cause he's the main one, and then there's like, there's one more. He's the narrator. He's a Navy ... Was a Navy guy. He was a Naval Academy graduate. I'm trying to look through right here. He's an officer in the Navy. He was on a submarine, okay?
[01:14:53] I don't know military stuff, okay? Especially the Navy. Nobody knows military. He was on a subma- he was a commander on a submarine, [01:15:00] okay? He was in charge of the submarine. So the book is all about essentially the military and the Navy at that time had b- had a very strong leader/follower relationship, and essentially the, the, the way that the ship was graded, viewed, the, the submarine was viewed, was what happened, or the command- the way that the commander was viewed was how that submarine ran while they were there.
[01:15:29] And so what happened was the commanders would take everything on, and they would work themselves to death, and everyone else on the submarine did nothing but whatever they were told. And so they had no autonomy. They had no decision-making. They were doing what they were told, period. And when that commander left, it was like starting all over, right?
[01:15:53] Because if you get the next commander who doesn't, you know, i- in... And [01:16:00] essentially one of the, where I was at in the book was, like, when one commander leaves and the next one takes over, it's like, that's it. It's like whole different submarine. Same, same hundreds of guys on the submarine, but that commander leaves and all of a sudden everything is about what the new commander is going to do.
[01:16:16] It's leader/follower. And this book is about a leader leader, where he is creating more leaders in his organization. And I started listening to it, guys, and I thought, "This is great. This is awesome. This is gonna be amazing for football coaches," because that's what we want, right? We want leader leader. We wanna be the guy at the top, but we wanna have all the coaches around us being leaders as well.
[01:16:38] We wanna develop them, and that's where we start, and that's where he started was with his staff. And then it was giving more responsibility to his, to the, to the, the, the next level of guys on the submarine, okay? I don't remember all the words. And then it's like, you know, how do we get... And then it's like passes it on to the players, and that's all, like, in my mind I was like, "This is gonna be awesome."[01:17:00]
[01:17:01] And maybe- It just wasn't awesoming for me. Okay? It wasn't awesoming for me. It was like, this is good, but I'm not listening to this and thinking like, this is, this is changing the game for me. If that's something... If you are in a super deep leadership dive where you are... And I've, I just got out of this with habits.
[01:17:26] And honestly, one of the books that I read during my habits thing was was one that I wish I had dropped because it did nothing for me. I actually did drop one, and there was another that I... Quite honestly, if you wanna talk about habits, Atomic Habits is it. It's the end. I like High Performance Habits as well by Brandon Bouchard.
[01:17:45] But like, in this leadership thing, like honestly, if you're talking about leadersh- if you're talking about the, the books that are gonna be done, like Extreme Ownership, this isn't Extreme Ownership, this isn't an Extreme Ownership book, but like Extreme Ownership's a book that is absolutely, for me, worth going [01:18:00] all the way through and in fact, it's one that I will go back to.
[01:18:02] This book I got three... A, a third of the way through and, and guys, last week I just said, this, this, a few days ago, I just said I'm... Because I, I use Audible's subscription, and so you can refund those books if you, if you get one and you know, the, you know, it's like Amazon, you can return it. And so I can get my credit back.
[01:18:25] And a third of the way in I said, "This is a good book. It's not a great book. It's not a life-changing book for me where I'm at right now." It might work for you, and if you're on that leadership coo- kick right now, this would be one to look at. But I'm not, and so I dropped it and I felt good about myself because I will usually- It's okay
[01:18:44] force myself to go all the way through it even though I'm just wasting time. Yeah. That's okay. It's all right not to finish things, especially if they don't align to your... What I've found is I get into these self-help books and they don't align to like what another book has taught me- [01:19:00] Exactly ... or another thing.
[01:19:00] So, you know, it's, it's okay to dis- disagree. Here's my, here's my, I'm, I'm giving you my weird spiel on self-help books and, and I've actually I can go right now and read a book, and that is one person's view on how things should be done. Absolutely. And there are, I don't know how many billion people on Earth today, but China might be lying about half their numbers.
[01:19:25] Maybe they're smaller than we think. We don't know. Anyway, there's a lot of people out there that have been, may or may not have a better way to do this. So for me to try to go all out on this one, except Extreme Ownership, there ain't nobody else doing it better. Yeah. I mean, there's, there's probably- John Cove got it
[01:19:38] there's, there's probably 10 or 12 books that really just, like, absolutely speak to you and, like, are worth reading- Yeah ... and reading again, and I'll listen to them over and over again and, like, start implementing the stuff. And then some of them are just like, "That was a good idea." Yeah. But the, the... It's hard for me to, like, just buy all into one person's thing when I'm like, "There might be someone else doing it different that's better.
[01:19:59] This [01:20:00] is just your opinion." And it's... I, I struggle sometimes. So it's okay. It's okay to- There's... I was trying to find the name of the guy, 'cause I, I know I listened to his book as well- Let me get John Cohen. How do I get John Cohen? ... which didn't blow me away, but I got one good idea from it. And, and he talks about reading, you know, hundreds and hundreds of books, but he, for one, he speed reads, and I speed read too, but you can't speed read...
[01:20:20] I mean, you can speed read an audiobook, but it's not the same. It's weird ... but he talks about, and especially with these style of books, the big idea is in the first 20%. Yeah. And then a lot of times the rest of it feels like padding, and if you get through the first 20% and it has not impacted you at that time, it's probably not going to.
[01:20:49] And so having the... Strength isn't the word, but for you and I, you know, we want, we want to get through it because we started it. We don't want to start things and not finish them. Yeah. So to, to be able to say, [01:21:00] "This is just not for me," and set it down is actually sometimes a tough thing. But you get through the first 20 or 30% and it didn't, didn't hit, it's probably not going to.
[01:21:08] Cameron Hanes is the other one that I will never put down. Cameron Hanes, Undeniable. Go check it out. Read that and you will... Here's what... It made... I had to buy running shoes and clothes and go run because Cam Hanes is that amazing. So read Cam Hanes. My level up is actually... What's funny is yours is kind of a, a negative, right?
[01:21:30] Like, this book was less good. Yeah, I think it's more- Mine's a negative on me ... brought me back. Our so the last couple years we've had issues with our AC and, and once again today Our AC decides to freeze up at the hottest time of the year. And what I found out is we have a, a pinhole leak of Freon, and so when they come and check, "Oh, you're a pound and a half low on Freon after 12 months."
[01:21:51] Like, well, that's not a lot, but it is a lot and it causes ours to not work. So Sidebar failure. The guy came today and I told him to [01:22:00] charge it and to fix the leak, and he charged it and he wanted to leave 'cause it was hot as hell and he did not fix the leak, nor did he detect the leak or anything else.
[01:22:09] I priced it and said, "Let's do it," and I let him walk away 'cause I also had things to do. So that's a failure, but I'll, I'll call his company back tomorrow and be like, "Let's go ahead and fix the leak." But last night going to bed... I, I'm gonna first of all start this with I have spent my time in the heat.
[01:22:24] I am done in the heat. I don't, I don't care. The Army has drug me overseas three times to play in hot places and I do not ever... I don't even go to the beach because the beach is hot. Okay? I don't want to go. My wife is a beach bum. If she could be, she would live there and never leave. She tans, I burn.
[01:22:43] Yet another reason to not go to the beach for me. But I hate the, I hate sand and I hate heat, so don't wanna do it. I failed the resiliency test last night because our house was about probably 85 degrees when we tried to lay [01:23:00] down You New Yorkers or whoever the government told you to put your shit at 82 and then you're gonna be good.
[01:23:07] Nope. When you go to bed, you're out. I'm out. No. Never gonna, never gonna... No. Mm-mm. No. I think it was about 85 when we tried to lay down. We got it as low as 77, and I was miserable, and I was pissy, and I was argumentative, and I didn't want my kids to touch me. And you know what kids wanna do when it's hot?
[01:23:24] Everything they would do when it's cold. They wanna love on you, they wanna grab you, they wanna wrestle, they wanna fight, they wanna cuddle, they need daddy snuggles. And I was not having it, and I 100% failed. I was a terrible human. Go outside and lay naked in the grass. Leave me alone. Exactly. Get off me.
[01:23:39] Why are you touching me? And it, it changed my attitude, and I was a very negative Nancy. And and I hate it because I teach them, I try to teach them all the time, be resilient, and the first little touch of heat and I was not, I was not resilient at all, Joe, so. I get you. We we ended up sleeping five deep in our king-sized bed, [01:24:00] and had a fan on, a ceiling fan, and then an additional...
[01:24:02] The, the one that's usually blowing over here when I'm in the podcast room. It's not here tonight either, 'cause it's still in my bedroom. And and luckily we finally all just got to, I had to take some sleeping pills and I just passed because otherwise I was going to be fighting it all night, so.
[01:24:16] We are- I preach resiliency quite a lot. Yeah. And in the face of a little bit of heat, I was a piss ant. We are fortunate that we have a basement that generally stays below 72. Ugh. See- So if the, if, the, the, the occasion where it has gone out, just slept in the basement, because we got a pullout couch down there.
[01:24:36] Just slept in the basement. It's like, okay. Yeah. By the way The Almanac of Naval Ravikant, N-A-V-A-L R-A-V-I-K-A-N-T. So I do have a book called ... Tim Ferriss is one of the, I don't know, Eric Jorgensen and Tim Ferriss, I don't know, put it together. Yeah. Naval Ravikant is the person that you're looking for.
[01:24:55] So I, I do have a book recommendation that I would at least get [01:25:00] through the first 20% of, and it does have some good stuff. There you go. Extreme Ownership by Jocko Willink. It's great. Also a good book. What sales are opening and closing this week, Joe? Man, nothing right now. I mean- The store's open.
[01:25:11] Nothing's on sale. Store is open. There's nothing like on spectacular sale right now. We've kind of done away, not done away with, we've kind of put a lot of that on hold right now as we put out the 4-2-5 Defense manual. If you don't have it yet, go to 425defense.com, get the Coaching Football's 4-2-5 Defense, second edition, print, spiral-bound, very nice looking.
[01:25:31] Plus you get the PDF version as well of the manual all the diagrams, everything. But you get that nice print manual and it's, you know, initially they told us it was gonna take like 10 to 14 days to get them out. It's not taking that long. Most of them are getting out in the mail in a couple days and, and, you know, depending on where you're at in the country, they're getting to you pretty quick.
[01:25:48] So, you know, we're seeing that it's quick turnaround. You can get it, you can have it. You know, buy it for your coaches. Buy, you know, get, get everybody involved and we haven't quite figured out the multiple order thing yet, but [01:26:00] bulk order. But I would check that out and then we will have ... I say that we'll have something the time that this comes out, but I'm not 100%.
[01:26:11] I don't wanna, I don't wanna, I don't wanna say it- Yeah ... and then it's not there. Don't paint yourself into a corner. And then you're like, "Joe Daniel told me it was gonna be available and I just wanna give him money-" Right "... but he lied to me." And now you got this handful of money and you don't know what to do with it, and you end up spending it on, you know
[01:26:30] Never mind. Just go ahead. Excellent. Social media, I'm @CoachChamboOK on Twitter/X. I've been so much less active on there recently. I started using Facebook for my diving business, the, to go recover people's stuff, and Twitter's just not as interesting. I was kinda getting burned. I know you got ... You're, you're done on social media.
[01:26:50] And I kinda got there too. Like, everything was an argument, and I ... Almost like the algorithm was just showing me stuff I was gonna be pissy about anyway. I just- That's what it [01:27:00] does. It wants you to argue because that's engagement, and that's what it wants. I ... So I stopped, and it, honestly, like I, it takes me a while to get to messages.
[01:27:07] I have to look at his name. Hang on. There's, there's another a fellow football podcaster. I know his name's Stu. Morning Brew with Stu. Stuart Brooking. I was just ... Stu, I couldn't remember your last name. Get on Stu's show. Stuart Brooking is, you know, he's, he still messages me, and I, like, miss half.
[01:27:22] There's a guy Coach Brown is the new offensive coordinator at a school in, in Tulsa that we've had a lot of engagement. We've, we've texted and stuff a lot. But I, and I miss theirs 'cause I'm just not on Twitter anymore. But anyway, email me at chamberlainfootballconsulting@gmail.com. I still check those all the time.
[01:27:38] You guys that were looking for the two platoon w- with, with not two platoon numbers practice schedule, keep, like, if you haven't saw that on the chalkboard, go to the chalkboard. If you have and that you've wanted to get it, email. I've sent that same Loom out to, like, eight people now, so there's a lotta guys that are interested in, in doing that.
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